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Post by Tytos on Nov 28, 2008 21:14:57 GMT -5
Since this war broke out my original plan was to wait until afterwards to introduce the Economy, instead of starting it halfway into the war. That is, until I forgot...
I have the troops and incomes and upkeep all settled, just was having trouble with the blasted ships. I should be able to get that pretty soon, and I'll post it up for you guys to see.
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Post by Tytos on Nov 28, 2008 21:28:56 GMT -5
Okay, here it is: www.mediafire.com/download.php?gzwmnmtmv3tCheck it out, hopefully the ships are all straightened out, they're really a pain to work with, and I think one region I was off by a ship or two, but you can't be perfect. What do you guys think? This would most likely be implemented once this ordeal is wrapped up.
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Post by Ollie on Nov 29, 2008 21:20:31 GMT -5
I don't think that the budget should be in direct proportion to the number of houses. There are lots of other factors that come into play.
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Post by Tytos on Nov 30, 2008 11:10:07 GMT -5
Do you mean the total income for the region? That's just for fun, to see how your region stacks compared to others. That didn't have anything to do with the incomes. I actually worked backwards from the troop count to come up with a reasonable income system, it was better than just pulling numbers out of my arse.
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Post by Lord Gaspard Yronwood on Nov 30, 2008 20:16:41 GMT -5
House Lefford is a MODERATE house?!
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Post by Tytos on Nov 30, 2008 20:25:27 GMT -5
"The Golden Tooth is a small castle (SSC: 58)"
And besides that, the greater houses of the Westerlands were Houses Tarbeck and Reyne, both of which Tywin eradicated. House Lefford is not a very important house, Brax and Marbrand are both more powerful, with Crakehall probably about the same strength as you.
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Post by Tallahar on Nov 30, 2008 20:55:33 GMT -5
I always placed Crakehall as stronger.
They control the Southern part of the Westerlands.
Plus Jaime squired for Lord Crakehall and Jaime being Tywin heir he would of gone to a powerful house.
Also I think there is no House Royce of the Gates of the Moon. That House was made by Littlefinger and that never happened in this Timeline.
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Post by Tytos on Nov 30, 2008 21:01:41 GMT -5
Well either way, the chief bannerhouses of Lannister were Tarbeck and Reyne, both of which were destroyed. Meaning there are no more major bannerhouses, just the moderate ones, like Crakehall, Brax, Marbrand, Lefford, etc. They may control the southern part of the Westerlands, but what made Tarbeck, Reyne, Lannister etc. the most powerful were their gold mines, which Crakehall has none of.
The Royces always had two branches, Runestone and Gates of the Moon.
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Post by Tallahar on Nov 30, 2008 21:05:08 GMT -5
Yes in the books.
Our one is different remember.
Petyr Bealish never became Lord Regent of Robert Arryn so he could never reward Nestor Royce for his loyal service.
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Post by Tytos on Nov 30, 2008 21:11:23 GMT -5
There had been two branches of Royce long before Petyr got there. If you look back, Catelyn met with them when she first went to meet with Lysa, long before Petyr stuck his hand in the Vale.
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Post by Erik on Nov 30, 2008 21:08:58 GMT -5
Right, Gates of the Moon were a secondary Arryn castle, weren't they? Wouldn't it be possible that a branch of the Royces took them when the Arryns died out in our timeline?
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Post by Erik on Nov 30, 2008 21:12:18 GMT -5
But they weren't the proper lords of it.
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Post by Tallahar on Nov 30, 2008 21:13:25 GMT -5
He was Castellan or something. Like the Knight of the Bloody Gate.
It was chosen not given from Father to Son.
Petyr changed that by making Nestor Lord.
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Post by Quenton Baratheon on Dec 1, 2008 12:45:22 GMT -5
"The Golden Tooth is a small castle (SSC: 58)" And besides that, the greater houses of the Westerlands were Houses Tarbeck and Reyne, both of which Tywin eradicated. House Lefford is not a very important house, Brax and Marbrand are both more powerful, with Crakehall probably about the same strength as you. As much as I lovingly approve of your notion that Marbrand and Brax are more powerful than Lefford (ha! take that Martyn!), wouldn't the fact that Lefford men have been pretty much at the forefront of most military action over the course of this game have moved them up the ladder a bit? I mean, yes Tarbeck and Reyne were powerful back in the day, but that doesn't mean that other houses can't have risen higher in the meantime. Surely without them, it has allowed room for economic growth with the others? Depends who their land was given to after Tywin broke them I suppose. Did he just claim it for himself and House Lannister?
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Post by The Flint on Dec 1, 2008 12:50:02 GMT -5
My impression is that the Lannisters retained control of Tarbeck and Castermere, because they are able to offer Castemere to the Westerlings for their part in the betrayal. Obviously you can't give away something you don't own.
And the military valor of one's house doesn't necessarily impact the prosperity of it. The only thing that would improve prosperity would be more land.
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