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Post by Imry Willfyre on Dec 21, 2007 0:18:40 GMT -5
Hey Oliver, there has been mention of one other Bulwer-- Victer Bulwer (sp?). He would be in his mid twenties, and perhaps your younger brother. I had mentioned in passing in an old thread that he was the heir to the Bulwer's, but I'm fine with him being the second son. He was a close companion of Lord Barret Tyrell (another story entirely), and has now been missing for the last few years.
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 0:20:28 GMT -5
perhaps he was killed in the fighting at Crakehall. Would explain why he's not been around.
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Post by swammeyjoe on Dec 21, 2007 0:26:13 GMT -5
Was there fighting at Crakehall?
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Post by Imry Willfyre on Dec 21, 2007 0:26:32 GMT -5
Oh, there's a reason why he's not around it just isn't public info. If anyone really needs to know I can PM it to them, but he's with a bunch of other people and so I'd rather not give away their whereabouts publicly, even if it would be OOC information.
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 0:49:39 GMT -5
During the Reach Rebellion Randal. Lord Hewett Seized it with 10,000 men. Not much of a Regent are you? Whatever Alexius. But a storyline you don't tell anyone about is the kind that doesn't effect the game in any meaningfully way. The guy took an interest in the Bulwer family, let him have the ability to decide what happens to them.
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Post by swammeyjoe on Dec 21, 2007 0:51:31 GMT -5
No, but no one died in that battle, I thought they took it peacefully, and then left it peacefully.
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 0:54:13 GMT -5
We lost like 4,000 men taking it by storm you lost around 25 hundred or so. We did leave peacefully though.
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Post by Imry Willfyre on Dec 21, 2007 1:49:53 GMT -5
During the Reach Rebellion Randal. Lord Hewett Seized it with 10,000 men. Not much of a Regent are you? Whatever Alexius. But a storyline you don't tell anyone about is the kind that doesn't effect the game in any meaningfully way. The guy took an interest in the Bulwer family, let him have the ability to decide what happens to them. Some people do know about the storyline, but not everyone, and I don't think that it matters enough that it would even effect the main storyline of the game. But this is pretty irrelevant anyways, as Victer is gone from Westeros and that is the only person who I wrote of in House Bulwer. Oh, and welcome to the game, Oliver, I hope you enjoy your time here!
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 1:56:58 GMT -5
The only person you wrote about. The guy is fleshing out the rest of House Bulwer because his PC is going to be one of them. He has a right to know where his character's brothers are, and to factor them into his story.
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Post by Erik on Dec 21, 2007 2:05:20 GMT -5
But it is possible he just wouldn't know where his brother is.
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 2:09:36 GMT -5
Well seeing as its his character who grew up with the NPC, shouldn't he have the right to say how close they were or weren't? I'm not saying that new players should overturn what happened before, Obviously they shouldn't. but they should at least be properly informed so they can include it in their history and actions. That's more important to me than what someone did to an npc they used once upon a time for a character they may not even play anymore.
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Post by Imry Willfyre on Dec 21, 2007 10:48:58 GMT -5
Ahh. I see what you're saying, but I don't think we're arguing the same thing. My point is that it isn't essential for someone from house Lannister (albeit a Lannister from a couple hundred years ago) to know where Gerion Lannister went, all the information that is relevant to them is that he's gone. For what it's worth he could have fled to the Free Cities, but we don't know-- he's never appeared. It's part of the story that they don't know. Victer just up and left a few years ago and there was never a real explanation why.
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 11:27:33 GMT -5
Yes, but House Lannister is a very large house with many PCs with interweaving storylines and access to various npcs representing that house. House Bulwer is a tiny house with one PC. It has been mentioned perhaps twice. I was told when I started that players should only control the actions of NPCs they were directly connected to or had authority over. So I think Victer Bulwer would fall into that category for Oliver. Maybe he doesn't care, and leaves him in the free cities, or wherever he is. Maybe he brings him back, maybe he becomes his character's nemesis and they get into an argument. But I think it should be up to the Bulwer to decide that, which means having the information to make a decision.
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Post by Quenton Baratheon on Dec 21, 2007 11:46:56 GMT -5
Oh, there's a reason why he's not around it just isn't public info. If anyone really needs to know I can PM it to them, but he's with a bunch of other people and so I'd rather not give away their whereabouts publicly, even if it would be OOC information. Hey Alexius. This is fine with me - I want to integrate in with canon events as much as possible - so I'm happy to go with whatever has gone before. If you could perhaps PM me the manner of his leaving - i.e. if we can try and figure out what he was doing before and when he left that'll do me. You don't have to give away the whole thing. Thanks for being easy on the whole heir thing. Perhaps Victer was just a compulsive liar with ideas above his station...
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Post by The Flint on Dec 21, 2007 12:04:13 GMT -5
sweet. Settled.
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