The King's Guard

[swammeyjoe]

All of the West would rise to your aid, all of it.

[sercoletyrell]

"You couldn't raise your own cock, Lannister, never mind the west."

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[melon]

Then they would fail as they hear Tallahar Tyrell is riding against them.

[swammeyjoe]

Read the rest of the thread, Tall, you would already be dead...

[melon]

But I can't die. Also I would rise from the died just to ride against you Randal.

[swammeyjoe]

And then I would summon up a thousand clerics to cast turn undead against you... and you would die. And then Smith would kill us both for ruining the game.

[melon]

Probably.

[blacwinmartell]

swammeyjoe said:

You guys do know that the only way to gain a lordship in this game is to kill your lord, right...

Aren't there lesser lordships the greater lords can grant?

[Princess Ariel Targaryen]

Blacwin: not really. Only in the North are there any surplus landholdings.

(I shouldn't say "any," but nothing major elsewhere.)

[blacwinmartell]

Hmmm, why not? Is there a specific reason or is it just something that hasn't been needed due to participation size? I'm sure there are plenty of little lordships that could be granted somehow through deed or whatever. Either way, I was just curious! Thanks Emelia.

[Princess Ariel Targaryen]

Specific reason is that the land's all parceled out. Lordships aren't "granted," they're inherited or married into (and technically, if a knight marries a Lady, the Lady is in command).

Seth Greyjoy was given this kind of holding, I believe, but it's not common and there's more usual methods than making someone a new Lord. The North at present is a special case as there are several lordless holdings from the last war (heck, there's a brigand captain out to seize one in a current plot), but most of the other banner-castles are already spoken for.

[Horas]

The surest way to become a lord is to be on the winning side of a war, really, and hope that your liege lord grants you land. That's happened several times in the game already.

[Lord Rhodri Arryn]

Assuming you aren't in a line of succession, Lordships generally come through the spoils of war. Losing families are stripped of their land and titles, and the allies of the winners are granted the lordships. Rhodri spend five years as the Lord of Storm's End after it was stripped from the Baratheons.

The Seth case is well, not very realistic to GRRM's world, but not by so much that it's worth objecting to.

[sethgreyjoy]

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I don't think Seth's case is realistic mainly because I can't see large tracts of land being available like that, because everything is so closely carved out between the banner lords. But I'm not going to object to it either. It's not a huge deal that'll affect everyone.