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Post by melon on Oct 26, 2007 1:03:55 GMT -5
"Hear Hear It is a great outcome." Robert calls above others talking.
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Post by syd on Oct 26, 2007 8:56:36 GMT -5
OOC: I meant specifically the families of the victims. Tyrell will send 500 dragons to build a refugee site wherever the bulk of the refugees are though.
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Post by The Flint on Oct 26, 2007 9:55:16 GMT -5
"By the way milord, Perhaps you should remind Lord Hightower, that my mother, whom he earlier called a slut, is also your Aunt?"
Lord Jarrad storms out, returning to Stoatheart.
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Post by syd on Oct 26, 2007 10:11:18 GMT -5
Lord Tyrell looks at back at Hightower with an unfriendly stare.
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Post by Percy Rivers on Oct 26, 2007 10:53:48 GMT -5
"You can begin by paying restitutions of 50 dragons to each of the families of the victims of your slaughter. In addition you will pay for housing for these refugees until they can return home." "Finally, consider these punishments as pending. Should you continue to commit similar actions, you will be rewarded with harsher judgments...but change your ways and mindset and all you will owe is money. Unfortunately there is no way to repay for blood lost." To his own guards and bannermen he said, "Match the sum that Lord Varner gives to every family. Money cannot buy back life, but it can ease the trouble." "And Ser Anselm, I do appreciate my good-brother's well-wishes, but please do inform him that I am both capable and quite strong in my command. Next time I will send him a message should I not feel up to the task of quelling a rebellion. But thank him for his thoughts, nonetheless." Before he ended completely he seemed to remind himself of one last point, "Oh and let it be reminded that stealing, under any circumstances is a crime. Refugees should petition to their lords, and not have to resort to this course of action." (OOC: It's my understanding that peasants would rarely have more than 1 dragon in savings? Perhaps I'm wrong, the financial situation of peasants aren't really explained.) "The king gave no message, he declared martial law. And troops from the First Westerosi Army were to secure the areas around the fallen stars in conjunction with your own soldiers. Forgive any intrusion but for expedience's sake we felt it best to act with all due haste. It was not a matter of questioning your competence."
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Post by syd on Oct 26, 2007 10:55:54 GMT -5
"These are the lands of the Reach however, and despite the fact that we owe fealty to Callen this is a feudal society."
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Post by Percy Rivers on Oct 26, 2007 11:59:23 GMT -5
OOC: I don't think they even used the term feudal back then
IC: "Very well Lord Barret, next time I'll confer with you before arresting a criminal."
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Post by syd on Oct 26, 2007 12:02:37 GMT -5
Lord Tyrell looked at the man with a sad demeanor, "You don't seem to understand. I don't march to King's Landing and arrest criminals for the King. I am his vassal, not his baby boy to clean up after."
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Post by House Dustin on Oct 26, 2007 12:16:44 GMT -5
OOC: I don't think the word or even concept of "martial law" existed either, Callen.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Oct 26, 2007 12:20:54 GMT -5
OOC: The whole argument is nonfunctional within the laws and traditions of Westeros. Martial law is nonexistent, and Lord Tyrell has near universal power within the Reach. That much is true. But the King also has the right to arrest men anywhere in Westeros, not just in King's Landing -- that element of Lord Tyrell's argument is a non-starter. The King is the King everywhere, not just the capital.
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Post by syd on Oct 26, 2007 12:29:24 GMT -5
OOC: Mhmm, Tyrell is just angry that Callen for interfering in a seemingly typical situation.
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Post by House Dustin on Oct 26, 2007 12:30:37 GMT -5
OOC: My only point, Rhodri, is that in a feudal society (and yes, Callen is right, that term didn't exist back then), ALL law is martial, all the time. I mean this whole scenario is pretty ridiculous, I can't imagine anyone caring about the Lord Varner massacring some smallfolk in his own fief-- either in GRRM's books, or in actual medieval history. The only angle that would make sense to me is if the noble from wherever these refugees hailed from had lodged a complaint and demanded some restitution from Varner.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Oct 26, 2007 12:41:02 GMT -5
OOC: I think basically everyone has a correct point in this, if that can possibly make sense.
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Post by Percy Rivers on Oct 26, 2007 13:15:17 GMT -5
OOC: I just couldn't think of a good term for securing the area's around the crash sites, so I used martial law. Also there is a reason for arresting Roland, way back in July (RL) when Callen was still in hiding he drafted some laws in Summerhall, to not uphold them would be hypocrisy. You can find the link here: www.lordsofwesteros.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=stormsend&action=display&thread=1184561720&page=7It's about half way down the page. IC: "Again I ask for your forgiveness. But to go to Highgarden first would have meant the deaths of many more. As the kings representative I recognize that these are your lands, and so I brought Lord Varner to you for judgement."
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Post by House Dustin on Oct 26, 2007 13:42:50 GMT -5
OOC: I think you make a good point Rhodri, all angles on this have some validity to them.
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