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Post by The Flint on May 29, 2009 11:49:02 GMT -5
Marbrand is a Westerman.
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Post by Sam on May 29, 2009 11:50:14 GMT -5
Nobody really knows what's up with the west, they got clusterfucked before we even marched north
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Post by Marie on May 29, 2009 12:17:49 GMT -5
I'm speaking historically here, so I guess I'm not necessarily correct in terms of the books... but all English kings starting with Henry VIII used the title "Your Majesty", while "Your Grace" became the styling for non-royal dukes, duchesses, etc. There were many English kings before Henry VIII, all of whom I believe would have used Your Grace. Westeros doesn't have any dukes (yet) |
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Post by Flex on May 29, 2009 12:21:46 GMT -5
And let's never get them.
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Post by Sam on May 29, 2009 13:04:20 GMT -5
You know what's cool? You can actually trace the current Queen of England's ancestry, 30 generations (throughout most of the various kings or royal families) back to William the Conqueror.
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Post by Sam on May 29, 2009 13:37:43 GMT -5
Also how many of the former Kingsguard are still alive, if any? Should we say they've all been killed in battle in the last few years?
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Post by Ollie on May 29, 2009 15:03:02 GMT -5
What Westerman lords were present at the Council, if any? I was present, and swore fealty along with Selwyn. |
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Post by Imry Willfyre on May 29, 2009 16:18:08 GMT -5
I'm speaking historically here, so I guess I'm not necessarily correct in terms of the books... but all English kings starting with Henry VIII used the title "Your Majesty", while "Your Grace" became the styling for non-royal dukes, duchesses, etc. There were many English kings before Henry VIII, all of whom I believe would have used Your Grace. Westeros doesn't have any dukes (yet) Yes, I admit that this is true. And Westeros doesn't have any dukes... maybe GRRM used "Your Grace" because it was in style during the Wars of the Roses, the period which influenced the series. |
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Post by Tallahar on May 29, 2009 17:01:31 GMT -5
I think it's so casually with calling Selwyn by his first name is the fact that we've all been fighting for like 2 years together.
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Post by Marie on May 29, 2009 17:14:12 GMT -5
You know what's cool? You can actually trace the current Queen of England's ancestry, 30 generations (throughout most of the various kings or royal families) back to William the Conqueror. Yay, go us! (Waves a Union Jack flag proudly) Ok, kidding. The Queen did come to my home town a few years back though and myself and some colleagues stood outside our office building and I waved the Union Jack as her car drove past. She was looking out the wrong side of the car, unfortunately! |
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Post by Imry Willfyre on May 29, 2009 18:43:11 GMT -5
You know what's cool? You can actually trace the current Queen of England's ancestry, 30 generations (throughout most of the various kings or royal families) back to William the Conqueror. Related to one royal and you're related to a hundred others... Elizabeth is also descended from the Anglo-Saxon kings, not the earliest of whom was Alfred the Great. Furthermore, her children and grandchildren (if not herself) are descended from all the Tzars of Russia until Nicholas I, including Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. And you could follow her other lines back to hundreds if not thousands of royals. |
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Post by Marie on May 29, 2009 18:49:05 GMT -5
Hmm and weren't Queen Victoria's children and grandchildren connected somehow to EVERY European Royal house?
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Post by Imry Willfyre on May 29, 2009 23:51:32 GMT -5
They were, but they probably already had been.
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Post by Aerys on May 30, 2009 0:02:05 GMT -5
You know what's cool? You can actually trace the current Queen of England's ancestry, 30 generations (throughout most of the various kings or royal families) back to William the Conqueror. Related to one royal and you're related to a hundred others... Elizabeth is also descended from the Anglo-Saxon kings, not the earliest of whom was Alfred the Great. Furthermore, her children and grandchildren (if not herself) are descended from all the Tzars of Russia until Nicholas I, including Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. And you could follow her other lines back to hundreds if not thousands of royals. And of course Alfred's ancestor was Cerdic, a contemporary or near contemporary of the legendary 'King' Arthur (circa AD 500) Elizabeth's ancestry has also been traced by genealogists, with a fair degree of certainty, by genealogists to a contemporary of Alexander the Great (about 330 BC). A couple of genealogists have even suggested Elizabeth's ancestry can be traced back even further through the ancient Kings of Persia. |
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Post by Imry Willfyre on May 30, 2009 0:06:18 GMT -5
I think I've seen a genealogy like that Aegon, though if Elizabeth's line came from Kings of Persia then perhaps they are directly related down the line, because I saw--though haven't had confirmed elsewhere-- that daughters of Alexander married into the Sassinid dynasty.
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Hope you all are well and happy.
Feb 9, 2021 15:35:26 GMT -5
Hope you all are well and happy.
Feb 9, 2021 15:35:26 GMT -5