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Erik Most Devout is Erik. But you could probably figure that one out. Posts: 4,841	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 15:19:32 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Erik on Mar 11, 2008 15:19:32 GMT -5 Horn Hill is in the Mander, right?
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The Maps Mar 11, 2008 15:30:02 GMT -5

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I think so. Seem to recall Sam Tarly worrying about Horn Hill if Hightower fell to the Ironborn.

Found the text:

"It made him wonder if Even Horn Hill was truly safe. The Tarly lands lay inland amidts thickly wooded foothills, a hundred leagues norteast of Oldtown and a long way from any coast."

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The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:01:15 GMT -5

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Post by Sam on Mar 11, 2008 16:01:15 GMT -5

It depends on where you draw the border between the Mander & the Far Reach. It's closer to Highgarden than it is to Oldtown, but the way the rivers run across the continent, the borders might have been drawn in a way that puts Horn Hill under the dominion of the Hightowers.

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Erik Most Devout is Erik. But you could probably figure that one out. Posts: 4,841	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:03:17 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Erik on Mar 11, 2008 16:03:17 GMT -5 This look all right?
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Sam Most Devout Lord Commanders, the Father, Lyonel Lannister, and Ulfric Ninefingers Posts: 4,681	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:09:09 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sam on Mar 11, 2008 16:09:09 GMT -5 That looks sick. But maybe change the dragon symbol next to the crownlands to the symbol of House Barclay?
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Lord Howland Royce Most Devout Posts: 2,622	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:13:22 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lord Howland Royce on Mar 11, 2008 16:13:22 GMT -5 wouldn't it fit more with a crowned stag instead?

Sam Most Devout Lord Commanders, the Father, Lyonel Lannister, and Ulfric Ninefingers Posts: 4,681	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:15:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sam on Mar 11, 2008 16:15:21 GMT -5 Isn't Barclay the Paramount of the Crownlands? Who is Lord of Storm's End?
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Lord Howland Royce Most Devout Posts: 2,622	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:18:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lord Howland Royce on Mar 11, 2008 16:18:21 GMT -5 No idea who's lord paramount, but seems silly to me to have a Lord paramount in the area where the King's seat is, but oh well. I think Prince Roderick is the next Lord of Storm's End with Francis as regent.

Erik Most Devout is Erik. But you could probably figure that one out. Posts: 4,841	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:18:40 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Erik on Mar 11, 2008 16:18:40 GMT -5 Prince Rodrick reigns, Francis Varner rules.
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Sam Most Devout Lord Commanders, the Father, Lyonel Lannister, and Ulfric Ninefingers Posts: 4,681	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:20:04 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sam on Mar 11, 2008 16:20:04 GMT -5 ok it's a dominion of the King's family's lands, like Dragonstone was for the Targaryens. The Prince of Storm's End is the Paramount of the Stormlands (when he outgrows his regent)?
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Erik Most Devout is Erik. But you could probably figure that one out. Posts: 4,841	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:29:34 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Erik on Mar 11, 2008 16:29:34 GMT -5 Right.
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The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:30:13 GMT -5

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Post by Lord Howland Royce on Mar 11, 2008 16:30:13 GMT -5

It probably is as none of the King's Uncles are Lord their now or no Baraethons of Storm's End are ruling there. Though they could have been wiped out for all I know.

Renly would probably not have gotten any children. So Stannis and his heir(Shireen) would probably inherit Storm's End. Can say that she was baren and so Dragonstone and Storm's End would be the next princes (Edric's sons) seats. Or something like that.

Erik Most Devout is Erik. But you could probably figure that one out. Posts: 4,841	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 16:30:41 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Erik on Mar 11, 2008 16:30:41 GMT -5 Also, Varner really expanded the roads in the Far Reach when he was in charge there, but I wasn't sure exactly where they were and so didn't mark them.
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Tallahar Most Devout Tallahar Posts: 6,092	The Maps Mar 11, 2008 21:24:52 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Tallahar on Mar 11, 2008 21:24:52 GMT -5 Horn Hill is a Far Reach land as the Regent is Lord Trevor Tarly.
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The Maps Mar 11, 2008 21:38:45 GMT -5

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Mar 11, 2008 21:24:52 GMT -5 Tallahar said:

Horn Hill is a Far Reach land as the Regent is Lord Trevor Tarly.

In that case, Erik you should redraw the northern Far Reach border on the eastern side, so that so that it goes from the point where the stormlands, the Mander, and Dorne all have a border, and it should run west from there going north of Horn Hill and then the western part of the border can stay the same, the way it's up against the river.

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