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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 15:27:37 GMT -5
While I'm not in agreement with Lucian that Crake is some kind of irredeemably corrupt and vile demon from the darkest pits of AOHell, I do have to bring up the fact that his impartiality has come into question and the question is valid. He's made a couple of minor mistakes in handling this affair, and Lucian blew his stack all out of proportion.
In addition, Crake has a lot of balls to keep in the air anyway, and sometimes he may simply have trouble not using information that he received on enemy plots 'n plans when he's trying to tactically make the Songlord a badass. So my suggestion...
I think we could use a separate admin to judge combats. Crake remains NPC admin and Head GM, running the game and keeping the RP stirring like a pot of soup, while someone else (who runs no players) takes on the role of managing the results of the battles and troop movements.
That way, Crake can handle the stuff he's clearly best at, the appearance of impartiality is maintained, and we don't lose a solid player because of this little affair and a couple heated words.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 28, 2007 15:30:34 GMT -5
I have a couple concerns with this:
1) This is a roleplaying game, not a strategic wargame. Sure, we have troops and battles, but ultimately this is supposed to be about playing characters. If we have a dedicated "War Judge", doesn't that change the emphasis of the game?
2) Who/how would we recruit somebody to do what is essentially a busywork task with little reward?
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 15:31:09 GMT -5
Someone has in the past volunteered for a position of admin, and I am now offering it to them. I will inform you all when the decision is made.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 28, 2007 15:32:11 GMT -5
Well that takes care of #2. But as I said, I'd rather this not become an all-out wargame. Battles provide spice, but it shouldn't be about taking bits of the map like a game of Risk.
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Post by guest1 on Jun 28, 2007 15:34:39 GMT -5
Sounds good. (Presuming Crake, or anyone of us) knows someone reliable person who can spend most of his time comparing details and orders of battles and all that sorts of events.
Come to think about it, it seems, that crake has clarified all this mess well and he could remain in his position of "supreme commander of the board" I am just not sure how he will find time to all the tasks...
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 15:35:23 GMT -5
Right. That is something I want to stress, and I know Caliban (Lucian) wanted the the opposite (a Wargame) which is probably why we clashed so hard. We can continue to discuss this before I make such a decision concerning the military aspect of this game (which I thought was fine, being improved by the "Troop Movement" thread).
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Post by darklyn on Jun 28, 2007 15:36:40 GMT -5
I can man up and say yes I may have thrown things our of proportion here. I will give it to Crake that running something like this is hard on your own. I can apoligize for my rash behavior. I have been playing games of these types with Crake for a distinct time now. I recognize him as a good player, with off the wall actions and what not.
Crake I am looking forward to the Capture the Flag game on Fellows Hall board. If anything you are bound to make things intresting.
I offered to help you with a game after you proposed you could use a hand. You said it was not needed. If your other contact does not wish to do it and you find no one else I would still like to help you out. If not then I will return to playing the game.
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Post by guest1 on Jun 28, 2007 15:38:18 GMT -5
I am just being worried about that how crake can supervise all these things going on on the board. I would'nt have time for that and I beleive that it would be good if there would be someone to "share the burden"
Just suggesting...
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 15:39:57 GMT -5
You are forgiven. I will also admit that I am bold if nothing else, and perhaps that is apparent in this case. Hopefully everyone can take this as a learning example and know that whatever the case may be, it can be better solved through a good discussion.
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 15:40:02 GMT -5
And Rhodri, splitting NPC adminship/civilian scenarios and military matters is an old trick from back in The Roman Empire (the spiritual predecessor to this game. Except in TRE, whenever an admin was challenged, the result was an inevitable train wreck of accusations, insults and public walkouts instead of mature adults presuming good faith. What Caliban was doing was about par for the course there when something happened.)
We're beyond the trainwrecks (I hope) but the idea's still a good one.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 15:40:52 GMT -5
I deleted Steffen's statement and Caliban's response to avoid further argument.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 15:44:07 GMT -5
Aye, I admit that TRE was my strongest influence when creating this game as despite its many flaws it lasted for what...five years and two successful incarnations (with two slightly less successful ones).
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 15:44:16 GMT -5
Edited out my agreement with Caliban needing chill pill after seeing his man-up response. Glad we've worked this all out.
I had a post I was going to make for Lucian in the Blackhaven board but I'll hold it since the situation's paused and Lucian may be coming back.
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Post by guest1 on Jun 28, 2007 15:46:24 GMT -5
I' going to sleep now. Clock is 11.43pm. When I come back here after 10h I don't want to see you Choking each other to death.  But if you should fail my expectations you will learn what it means to awake the dragon... |
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 15:49:45 GMT -5
Indeed. Hear me roar!
meow
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Hope you all are well and happy.