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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 14:19:05 GMT -5
Why did the Songlord get to move to Blackhaven without an event, and how did he know that Blackhaven was under attack before the forces of Dorne even got there?
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 14:20:49 GMT -5
It was due to a complaint about too many events to take in. I posted that the Songlord's host had arrived in Blackhaven in the "Parlay at Blackhaven" thread.
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 14:21:35 GMT -5
Right, that still leaves the magical arrival. It wasn't a hidden move, but all the same how the Songlord arrived immediately...
Troop movements really need either, at least...A, an Event, or B, we can have a Troop Movements forum to keep track of them. I don't want to have to go looking all over hell for where everyone comes from.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 14:27:22 GMT -5
The Songlord nearly between Nightsong and Blackhaven (which is nearby to Blackhaven anyway) when he got word of the Dornish host and changed his course.
I will start a new troop movements board to avoid further confusion.
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Post by darklyn on Jun 28, 2007 14:35:19 GMT -5
He was already at Nightsong he was not in movement to Nightsong. A force came from the Vale and as far as I am concerec there are only 5,000 men in garrison at Blackhaven. 10,000 troops dont up and move for a 5 minute jog across westeros.
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 14:36:42 GMT -5
Have to agree. Even -ravens- don't move this fast.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 14:38:47 GMT -5
Then you should be more concerned because there are 15,000 men in Blackhaven. I apologized for not writing that the Songlord's host had left Nightsong, but to be honest, you wouldn't be getting reports of their leaving Nightsong until (perhaps very shortly before) they arrived at Blackhaven. You don't have an all-seeing eye, especially one that would pick up such subtle movement (like moving from one city to an adjacent one).
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 14:41:17 GMT -5
Ah, wait, so he left Nightsong? Aren't you changing your story there?
The Songlord nearly between Nightsong and Blackhaven (which is nearby to Blackhaven anyway) when he got word of the Dornish host and changed his course.
So, he wasn't at Nightsong in the first place? I think that's dissembling, which is a separate problem.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 14:43:34 GMT -5
I'm arguing using Lucian's point, to prove that no matter where he was (in a radius around Blackhaven) he would have been able to travel there in the time he had. Plus, you aren't aware of everything that goes on in Westeros.
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Post by darklyn on Jun 28, 2007 14:43:53 GMT -5
This is where GMs poseing as players as well becomes a problem. You can use your universal power to fix anything you may have missed. If you wanted to play in a game then you should not have started one to GM.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 28, 2007 14:45:45 GMT -5
No, you simply have not grasped any of the information I've told you. At this point you're just making me frustrated. I have received no other complaints up to this point and if you really feel passionate about this, feel free to leave- this is just a game after all.
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Post by Princess Ariel Targaryen on Jun 28, 2007 14:48:32 GMT -5
Lucian, please let me do the talking here.
I've made a private suggestion to clear this whole mess up.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 28, 2007 14:48:55 GMT -5
He was already at Nightsong he was not in movement to Nightsong. A force came from the Vale and as far as I am concerec there are only 5,000 men in garrison at Blackhaven. 10,000 troops dont up and move for a 5 minute jog across westeros. As an aside, the 5,000 men were in reinforcement to the previous garrison. Prior to the Songlord's arrival there were probably around 7,500 men there -- 1,500 that had been holding Highgarden and the around 1,000 normal standing defenses of a border castle.
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Post by darklyn on Jun 28, 2007 14:50:05 GMT -5
I have grasped the information and it is all bullshit. I will gladly leave this game. Don't forget you asked me, numerous times to join because you could use me. Then you turn around and pull stunts like this.
Consider me gone. No hard feelings Crake but when you see what has happend as nonsense then let me know.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 28, 2007 14:53:46 GMT -5
This is where GMs poseing as players as well becomes a problem. You can use your universal power to fix anything you may have missed. If you wanted to play in a game then you should not have started one to GM. How is he posing as players? He controls NPCs, it is true, but not every single character in Westeros is going to be represented by PCs. There have to be NPCs that are involved in the storyline. He has controlled NPCs on each side of the conflicts to date, not exclusively one side. As far as I know, Crake does not use any alts. Please try and resolve disputes about timelines and movements (I argued about the taking of Lannisport...), but the game couldn't function without NPC interaction. Crake is doing the best he can to create a compelling story for us to play in.
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