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Post by The Smith on Jun 11, 2007 11:29:19 GMT -5
This my post on being logical. Now, in the series how many individuals are fantastic swordsmen at a young age? Only the very best of the best are. I'm allowing people to be great swordsman at very young ages, but do you think that the King or Hand or whoever would want a 16 year old in high position, or command? Please be logical about what you think people would really accept you for. If you're having trouble with that, please message me and I can help you out.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 14, 2007 12:45:07 GMT -5
Keep in mind that if you are not in a scenario and it is a secret or private conversation between individuals then using information from it is considered -cheating-.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 20, 2007 16:22:46 GMT -5
Speaking of being logical...I feel I need to call shenanigans on the taking of Lannisport. In my conquest of Horn Hill post, I went to great lengths to explain how the host arrived at Horn Hill with some element of surprise. However, Lannisport is a major city, a much bigger population center than Horn Hill. It is far, far north of Oldtown, and Lannister had an army at Crakehall, which is in between. There is no explanation in the scenario posted about how the invading army got there, and why Lord Lannister, just outside of town in Casterly Rock, had no idea.
House Lannister is there in strength.
If an army large enough to conquer the city arrived nearby, there is no way that Lord Lannister would not have known they were there, and there is no way he wouldn't have worked to defend his major city.
It just doesn't seem "logical".
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Post by Axell Lannister on Jun 20, 2007 16:26:00 GMT -5
Agreed. That scenario immediately struck me as unrealistic, im not being biast or knocking who wrote it, but it seems to have missed out on a lot of points
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Post by The Smith on Jun 20, 2007 16:33:38 GMT -5
Although I will admit fault and agree that the scenario is not 100% realistic, I would argue against the notion that it is illogical. 1) Please read this: lordsofwesteros.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=events&action=display&thread=11820108552) By the dates things were posted there would have been basic knowledge that Lord Hightower was and had long been roughly in that area. Although, I confess I should have given information out that he was in that general area. 3) It is hard for me to keep the info of all armies in Westeros at a given time in my head, and especially to remember them after my absence. If it is at all any consolation, Hightower is totally aware he is in for a fight and I believe there are much more numbers at Lannisport than at Casterly Rock (I really don't think they would just join that battle given it was ill-fated). In addition, Lord Hightower had been essentially sitting in the Westerlands for a long while. This is where most of the problem would have stemmed from. When Lannister was taking Crakehall, Hightower would likely have been around or likely above that same area, but anyone who reads the Harrenhal board knew exactly where the army was headed. Further, it was even more illogical than all of this that Rodrick, with all that had been going on, and with the most powerful House in Westeros at his side, would not have raised more troops sooner. Once again I apologize and look to pay more attention to detail when something like this next occurs. |
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 20, 2007 16:37:01 GMT -5
Okay. It's Baldwin's problem, not mine. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by Axell Lannister on Jun 20, 2007 16:38:57 GMT -5
It was the fact that there was an army in the area which struck me as odd, but anyway thanks for the explanation crake. Given my current situation, im quite pleased tbh  |
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Post by The Smith on Jun 20, 2007 16:45:25 GMT -5
No problem. And after this I have come up with a new idea for the maps. I'll start posting the locations of any armies over 2,000 men on the maps just to help everyone out.
I would be able to update this every once in a while but if someone has enough time to be the "Map Guy" or "Map Girl" and update it more regularly that would be absolutely fantastic.
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Post by eytank49752 on Jun 20, 2007 17:10:42 GMT -5
The Lannisport conquest also struck me as odd. First, the scenario claims that conscripts were manning the walls. Why should we assume this?
Second; with 1000 troops defending a walled city, there is no way a force of 10000 could take it so easily and with so little loss of life. Defenders behind the walls of a city usually have an advantage of 10 to 1 against attackers, making the two sides in this case equal, so even if it was possible for Lord Hightower to take the city, there would have been a much greater loss of life.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 20, 2007 20:56:12 GMT -5
If you want to analyze everything to a T, then by all means, I will PM you my username and password.
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Post by eytank49752 on Jun 20, 2007 21:10:39 GMT -5
No, its fine. I was just commenting that the scenario ended a little oddly.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 20, 2007 21:40:19 GMT -5
Given the skills of Lord Hightower, he was able to do what he did. I apologize but I cannot tell you every NPC's stats.
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Post by eytank49752 on Jun 20, 2007 21:51:05 GMT -5
No problem.
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Post by Lord Rhodri Arryn on Jun 20, 2007 23:53:05 GMT -5
Note to self: do not underestimate the Lord Hightower.
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Post by The Smith on Jun 20, 2007 23:54:45 GMT -5
Never underestimate the power of the dark side.
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Hope you all are well and happy.