Dragons

[Lord Donal Stormshield]

A weak and indecisive Aenys 1, A guy who put a ransom on the scalps of the faith, and one to sign the treaty saying "yeah let us be friends after we paid money for to the top half of your head."

So I would say only 2 of those did anything where as only one actually put them down.

[Lord Oswyn Baratheon]

If the prequel book should have taught anything, it's that a mob can take down a dragon. "A swarm of rats can kill a bear" was the saying I think they kept using. At the end of the day, after a war that long, it was diplomacy that ended the war. If dragons alone could have won it, Maegor would have done in the two reigns he held power. From what I can see, it was more smallfolk revolution than war.

[Lord Donal Stormshield]

That was the saying, but Maegor also didn't have a dragon cause none of them liked him. I also think that is Maegor had tried to be diplomatic instead of offering gold and silver for the faith's warriors then I am sure that they probably would have accepted to keep their men from being killed.

[Lord Oswyn Baratheon]

Maegor bonded with Balerion after Aegon I died and used it in the Faith Militant Uprising. He just refused to bond with one in his youth, claiming none were worthy of him.

You made the point that 6 dragons would end the war quickly. I'm saying that clearly wasn't the case or Maegor would have. Whether attempts at diplomacy at an earlier point hypothetically would or wouldn't have worked isn't being contested.

[Lord Donal Stormshield]

I said that it would end a battle fairly quickly, never said anything about it ending a war quickly. Also where is this info about Maegor bonding with Balerion? All I can see is that he never bonded because he didn't think any of them were worthy.

[Marie]

Further to admin discussion, we will allow a few PCs with no dragons or else hatchlings but I am still going to encourage those who play to take adult dragons because otherwise we won't be able to fully utilise the freedom of dragons, which is kind of the point of the game.

[Lord Oswyn Baratheon]

True, but if 6 dragons are in one place, that means somewhere is probably left undefended. Not the best strategy in a smallfolk revolution.

As for Maegor bonding with Balerion:

"When the two brothers were young, Aenys bonded with the dragon Quicksilver, one of the progeny of Aegon I's original three dragons. Maegor, however, refused to bond with any dragon, claiming none were worthy. After their father died, Maegor ended up bonding with Balerion the Black Dread himself, Aegon I's own dragon. Maegor would later use Balerion to devastating effect during the Faith Militant uprisings."

Apparently the source was some live-reading and question session GRRM did called "Sons of the Dragon" for some compendium he's doing. Also mentioned an uprising in Gulltown during the war.

Dec 13, 2013 20:00:38 GMT -5 Marie said:

Further to admin discussion, we will allow a few PCs with no dragons or else hatchlings but I am still going to encourage those who play to take adult dragons because otherwise we won't be able to fully utilise the freedom of dragons, which is kind of the point of the game.

Yes if you would like to willingly take on the disadvantage of being dragonless, I have no issues with it.

[Lord Donal Stormshield]

Thank you.

And yeah, it would be a fairly shitty military strategy to have them all on the field but it would end the battle really quickly haha.

[Marie]

I think the compendium is probably this:

www.amazon.co.uk/The-Lands-Ice-Fire-Song/dp/0007490658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386983863&sr=8-1&keywords=lands+of+ice+and+fire

I prefer the POV system, personally, because I enjoy getting inside a character's head both when reading and in my own writing, but I loved the story of the novella. But I think the more neutral approach worked for a novella.

Rhaenys is my fave :-)

[Horas]

Just took a break to read this too. Really enjoyed it, though now I want to know the next part of the story because it made it fairly clear that the war was not quite over.

Quick question, how many dragons are alive at the end of the The Princess and the Queen? I think I counted three, but I might be off.

Edit: apparently 4

[Urron Greyjoy]

I also claim Smaug as my dragon.
Or at least the right to use him as my picture.

HnngSmaug

[Lord Oswyn Baratheon]

I don't think that's what he was reading excerpts from Marie. It sounds more like he wants to compile a massive compendium that's a collection of stories like Princess and the Queen. "Sons of the Dragon" appears to be one of them, telling the tale of Aenys and Maegor, which is what he read the excerpt from.

I did really enjoy the "history tome" writing style of it. Was a refreshing change and an excellent way to lay out a ton of factual information without the usual bias inherent with the PoV style. The "Blood and Cheese" bit might have been my favorite, as it really felt like one of those true brutal ASOIAF moments.

Smaug is all yours Urron. Start working on amassing a pile of gold for him to guard.

[Urron Greyjoy]

Aye aye.

[Marie]

The Blood and Cheese bit was my least fave

Oops, I posted the wrong link before. Well, it was late at night! I actually meant to post this one:

www.amazon.co.uk/The-World-Ice-Fire-Official/dp/0553805444/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387018862&sr=8-1&keywords=worlds+of+ice+and+fire

Though I think having 2 separate products entitled Lands of Ice and Fire and Worlds of Ice and Fire may not be the best marketing choice!

[Horas]

Apparently GRRM is now talking about an additional book even beyond the world book, which would be a collection of his longer ASOIAF stories and notes. He refers to it as the GRRM-marillion, presumably in the same vein as the Silmarillion. Which, I mean, I'm fine with. But the man better finish up the actual series first!